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Linguistics; crosscultural communication; Foreigner series...

dagoski has suggested that we discuss CJ Cherryh's Foreigner series here, with the idea that it might be useful to talk about crosscultural communication between the Terrans/ETS in those novels as a metaphor for exploring crosscultural communication here on Earth. I'm willing to try doing that. With two warnings...

First: I've never done a discussion like this one before, and it may turn out that I'm not good at it; we'll see. If the discussion is dreary and boring -- which won't be dagoski's fault in any way -- we'll give it a prompt and decent burial.

Second, for those of you who haven't read the Foreigner books: Even without having done this before, it's clear to me that spoilers are going to creep into the discussion. I don't see any way we can take up the communication problems and discuss them thoroughly without bringing in information that gives things away, no matter how hard we try. I can only say that I'll do everything I can to keep spoilers to a bare minimum.

That said, my suggestion would be that we begin with the following, to prime the pump:

1. The Wikipedia article about the series, which is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreigner_universe

[Note: The two "external links" at the end of the article appear to be largely inactive for this topic.]

2. An earlier post about the Foreigner series in this journal, at
http://ozarque.livejournal.com/34384.html

3. A Strange Horizons review of the series novel Deliverer by Siobhan Carroll, at
http://www.strangehorizons.com/reviews/2007/04/deliverer_by_c_.shtml

4. A brief piece about the ETs in the Foreigner series -- the atevi -- by tj9582, at
http://everything2.com/title/Atevi

5. And -- on the off chance that you're not familiar with the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis [mentioned in 2] -- an earlier post on that subject, at
http://ozarque.livejournal.com/116513.html

Over to you....

[Thanks to countrycousin for the working link in #1.]

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