ozarque ([info]ozarque) wrote,
@ 2008-04-23 08:40:00
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That soup recipe...
I hate to call this soup "Poverty Soup" -- because it's an excellent soup, as suitable for eating when you're prosperous as when you're poor. [I do know it's my fault it got called "Poverty Soup" in the first place; I started it. I was very fretful at the time. I shouldn't have called it "Poverty Soup."] We just call it "Cabbage And Potato Soup" at my house. And here's how you make it.

Ingredients

Three large, or five medium-sized, potatoes
Two large onions
One small cabbage
Water
One beef bouillon cube -- or one teaspoon of beef bouillon granules -- for each cup of water you use
Garlic to taste; either fresh garlic cloves or the minced garlic you can buy in a jar
About two tablespoons of butter or margarine
1/2 teaspoon oregano
1/2 teaspoon black pepper


Instructions

1. Cut the potatoes into small pieces -- don't dice them or slice them, you just want potato chunks all roughly the same size. Chop the onions; if you're using fresh garlic cloves, chop those too. [For me, there's no such thing as too much garlic; you might start with two cloves, or the equivalent in minced garlic, till you know how much you want.]

2. Put the butter in the bottom of a dutch oven, or in the bottom of a heavy saucepan with a lid, and melt it over low heat.

3. Put the potatoes and onions in the pan, stir them well so that all the pieces are coated with the melted butter, and cook the vegetables for a minute or two over very low heat, stirring constantly. Your goal is just to seal the surfaces of the vegetables, the way you'd seal the surface of meat by browning it; you don't want to end up with fried potatoes.

4. Add enough water to fill the pan you're cooking the soup in to within about two inches of the top. Do this with a measuring cup so that you know how much water you've added; then add as many beef bouillon cubes or as many teaspoons of beef bouillon granules as you've added cups of water. [Note: Don't use canned beef stock; it's both too salty and too sweet. If you're someone who makes a terrific beef stock yourself from scratch, by all means, use that; but the water plus bouillon cubes/granules works extremely well.] Add the oregano and black pepper to the water and stir.

5. Bring the soup to a boil, making sure the bouillon cubes or granules are completely dissolved; then turn the heat down low, put the lid on the pan, and let the soup simmer until the potatoes are fork tender. [Note: You have to check this every now and then; if the soup insists on boiling instead of simmering -- which will be a function of the pan you're using and how much control you have of your level of heat, and not your fault -- adjust the lid of the pan so that there's a gap between the lid and the edge of the pan where some of the heat can escape.] If the simmering process makes you need to add a little more water -- which can happen -- be sure you also add the right amount of additional beef bouillon cubes or granules.

6. There's really no upper limit on how long you can let this soup cook after the potatoes are tender. The longer it cooks, the better it will be, and I recommend cooking it at least two hours.

7. Half an hour before you want to serve the soup, take your cabbage and remove the core; cut the cored cabbage into small wedges. [That may sound a little jargony; you do it exactly the way you'd core an apple and cut it up into wedge-shaped slices -- like the segments oranges give you -- except that you'll need a larger knife than you'd use for an apple.]

8. Twenty minutes before you want to serve the soup, take the lid off the pan, set the cabbage wedges on the top of the liquid, and put the lid back on for those twenty minutes.

9. When you serve the soup, put a cabbage wedge or two in the bowl for each person who likes cabbage, but not for those who don't. People who don't like cabbage will still enjoy this soup; the cabbage adds flavor, but the soup won't taste like cabbage. Serve with bread or with corn pone; serve with a salad if you have one.

10. You'll notice that I didn't mention adding salt; because beef stock is already salty, that's a very bad idea. People should add salt, to their own taste, at the table.

11. This soup re-heats beautifully, and will keep three days in the refrigerator. At our place, we add fresh cabbage wedges each time we re-heat it, but that's optional. You may need to add a little more water when you re-heat it; if you do that, be sure you also add the right amount of additional beef bouillon cubes or granules.

12. To feed more people, just use more of everything.


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You may want to experiment with adding other things to your version of this soup -- maybe leeks, carrots, lentils, or other things you have on hand. You may want to use different spices. Whatever you add will change the flavor and the texture and the ambience. But you can rely on the recipe above to provide you with a hearty and healthy basic soup that will feed a lot of people well for very little money.


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[info]indefatigable42
2008-04-23 01:43 pm UTC (link)
My boyfriend's parents are both retired teachers, and they have told me about a similar recipe they called 'strike soup'.

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[info]magdalene1
2008-04-23 01:46 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the recipe! I'm a lover of soups and this one sounds dead simple.

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[info]cbpotts
2008-04-23 01:50 pm UTC (link)
This is very similiar to the recipe for Stone Soup: a great story, a great soup. Thank you.

I especially like step 12.

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[info]pgdudda
2008-04-23 01:53 pm UTC (link)
That reads to me like a variation of any number of Irish stews... I love cabbage, but for some reason your suggestion of leeks sounds delicious! Thank you for sharing. :-)

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[info]aedifica
2008-04-23 02:11 pm UTC (link)
Thanks!

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[info]mamadeb
2008-04-23 02:16 pm UTC (link)
The ingredients for this soup are perfectly in line with the foods available for Passover (which it currently is). Would it be possible to make this with the very good homemade chicken stock I happen to have in my fridge now? Because I can see making this for dinner on Thursday night.

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Response to mamadeb...
[info]ozarque
2008-04-23 02:30 pm UTC (link)
You can certainly make it with chicken stock; the flavor will be different -- and my personal preference is for the beef stock -- but it will still be a very good soup.

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Re: Response to mamadeb...
[info]mamadeb
2008-04-25 02:44 am UTC (link)
My husband, [info]jonbaker, would like to thank you for this recipe.

I had to make a certain amount of changes - not just the chicken stock (and I can taste very clearly that the beef flavor would be richer) but I also had to use light olive oil because that is the only non-dairy cooking fat I have right now - this year, it was impossible to get kosher for passover margarine. I'm not sure why. I'm assuming you specified butter or margarine for the taste, and I was sorry I had to use a relatively tasteless oil. I also added carrots because I have carrots. I was hoping they'd add a bit of richness. So it isn't quite your soup - merely a variation.

However, it is delicious, and might well form part of a holiday lunch in a couple of days. When I have beef stock (and margarine) available (we limit our salt severely, so bullion is out), I will try it again.

Thank you.

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[info]catsittingstill
2008-04-23 02:17 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for posting your recipe for Cabbage and Potato soup.

I think I will try it out this very night.

I do have a question--where do you find beef bouillon that is *less* salty than canned beef stock? My perception of the versions I have tried has been that bouillon was very salty indeed.

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Response to catsittingstill...
[info]ozarque
2008-04-23 02:34 pm UTC (link)
The brand of bouillon cubes/granules I use is Wyler's, and I don't find it salty. But people's perceptions of saltiness differ. My suggestion would be that you experiment a bit .... try fixing some of the stock with a little more water than one cup per cube/teaspoon, taste that to see if you find it too salty, and repeat until you know how much you personally need to dilute the cubes or granules to suit your own taste.

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[info]indefatigable42
2008-04-23 02:46 pm UTC (link)
You could always just boil up beef scraps or bones and make a broth, and add salt to taste.

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[info]dorianegray
2008-04-23 06:30 pm UTC (link)
Yes, and if you go into a butcher's shop and ask if they will sell you bones for stock, they will often give you the bones (I know, for I have done it!).

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[info]fatcook
2008-04-23 02:33 pm UTC (link)
Change the onions for celery and this is the exact same soup my mother makes.
Some things are truly universal.

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[info]mrgoodwraith
2008-04-23 02:52 pm UTC (link)
Off-topic comment for this post but (I hope) on-topic for your journal:

Ganked from [info]thnidu: Don't know whether you'd seen this Language Log post; if not, I thought it might interest you and your other readers.

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Response to mrgoodwraith...
[info]ozarque
2008-04-23 03:45 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for posting the link. I haven't been able to decide how I feel about that post. I'm a strong advocate for getting out information about linguistics to the general public, and it does that. But somehow, the event strikes me as too awful a tragedy to be suitable for use as an argument for being careful about a phonological process.

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[info]wikdsushi
2008-04-23 03:42 pm UTC (link)
Brilliant, thank you! Do you have any experience with vegetarian versions of this soup? My bouillon cube preference is Telma (a meat-free kosher brand), and I just wonder how much of a difference it'll make.

If I can get hold of some decent leeks (hard in Oklahoma), I'll make a batch of this that my violently anti-cabbage husband will eat. :) That poor, deluded man.

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Response to wikdsushi....
[info]ozarque
2008-04-23 03:48 pm UTC (link)
I've never eaten that soup made with vegetable stock instead of meat stock, but I know no reason why it wouldn't work. The flavor would be different, but the cabbage would give it some backbone.

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Re: Response to wikdsushi....
[info]wikdsushi
2008-04-23 03:57 pm UTC (link)
Groovy. :) Unlike my deluded husband, I'm all for cabbage (and other crucifers of any persuasion).

Now I have to restrain myself from making a pot full of this stuff--vegetarian style--and taking it to Conestoga to stick in the consuite. I might make some cookies, though.

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Re: Response to wikdsushi....
[info]queenmaggie
2008-04-23 04:33 pm UTC (link)
Ya know, cruciferous vegetables taste very very different to people due to a genetic difference. There's one gene that makes a compound in all cruciferous veggies taste very bitter to those who have it. That's usually the reason why people don't like them.

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Re: Response to wikdsushi....
[info]wikdsushi
2008-04-23 04:49 pm UTC (link)
I'd say that could be it, but he loves cauliflower, likes sprouts in limited quantity, and will eat broccoli if boiled to death. It's mostly just cabbage and a few other, lesser known things. He says they tastes like boiled socks. Go figure.

Oh, and he won't eat any exotic varieties of anything. I got him to eat broccoflower once; the experiment ended in disaster, and I had to eat the whole batch myself. I think the problem is just that he's not an adventurous eater in any way, shape, or form; it was a day of celebration when he tried Tex-Mex and liked a small percentage of it. How he ended up marrying me I still can't figure out.

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Re: Response to wikdsushi....
[info]indefatigable42
2008-04-23 05:12 pm UTC (link)
Try kale. It's a crucifer but doesn't taste or smell like one. It doesn't have the bitterness or the socky smell, and it doesn't go mushy the same way cabbage does.

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Re: Response to wikdsushi....
[info]wikdsushi
2008-04-23 06:59 pm UTC (link)
I'll see if he'll eat it. I love the stuff, but he's like a vampire with holy water when confronted with anything green and leafy. (Seriously, if marriages were made based on culinary wishes, we'd never have even met.) If I can season it well enough, he might give it a shot.

Thanks! :)

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[info]ladyvorkosigan
2008-04-23 06:48 pm UTC (link)
I used to do a similar thing with veggie bullion cubes and it was great! I'm always dissappointed that my local store doesn't carry them.

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Thoughts
[info]ysabetwordsmith
2008-04-23 03:57 pm UTC (link)
I wonder if there'd be enough interest for a "cheap cookin" community here on LJ. It could be a place for people to discuss the uses of cheap ingredients (corn meal, bacon grease, beans), tricks with them (zucchini milk), how to obtain cheap or free food (let your neighbors know you'll take zucchini), review suitable cookbooks (Sylvia's Soul Food Cookbook, White Trash Cookin' etc.), discuss ethnic food that's cheap (soul food, Indian cuisine), swap recipes that don't cost much to make (Cabbage and Potato Soup, dal), and things to do with leftovers or extra parts of food (chicken bone soup, ham bone & beans, leftover turkey salad).

Thoughts?

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Re: Thoughts
[info]wikdsushi
2008-04-23 03:58 pm UTC (link)
I'm a writer. YES, I'd be interested in a Cheap Cooking comm!

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Re: Thoughts
(Anonymous)
2008-04-23 04:41 pm UTC (link)
Ooh, interesting! If you make one, can you reply to this comment and let me know? I have a great recipe for lentil soup that needs to be shared with the world.

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Re: Thoughts
[info]ysabetwordsmith
2008-04-23 05:02 pm UTC (link)
Per request, I introduce [info]cheap_cookin. Come one, come all! Ingredients, recipes, and discussions for affordable food.

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Re: Thoughts
[info]vvvexation
2008-04-24 05:50 am UTC (link)
You might want to link this over in [info]poor_skills.

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Re: Thoughts
[info]phantomcranefly
2008-04-23 05:18 pm UTC (link)
Oops, sorry, that was supposed to be me. Forgot I hadn't logged in. (Please reply to this comment instead.)

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Re: Thoughts
(Anonymous)
2008-04-23 05:23 pm UTC (link)
And never mind again, you already did. Will post recipe this evening.

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Re: Thoughts
[info]interactiveleaf
2008-04-23 06:39 pm UTC (link)
You'll want to gank a lot of recipes from The Hillbilly Housewife if you want to do that.

Also ... zucchini milk?

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Re: Thoughts
[info]ysabetwordsmith
2008-04-23 09:58 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the tip!

Zucchini milk is made by liquefying zucchini squash. It can replace part or all of the cow milk in many recipes. I posted about it on my blog and in [info]cheap_cookin

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Re: Thoughts... response to interactiveleaf...
[info]ozarque
2008-04-24 01:54 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for posting the link to that site. I've spent quite a bit of time looking at it, and I'm of mixed mind about it. Good ideas there, and good recipes -- but my perception is that the site has the problem I was complaining about in another comment: It takes way too much for granted. If you already know how to cook, it's great; otherwise, the instructions just don't tell you enough about what to do, and they don't warn you about unexpected things that may happen.

I'll keep looking there; maybe, for example, there's a glossary, that I haven't gotten to yet. I just wish that people who write for beginners -- at any skill -- would really start at the beginning. Otherwise, the beginner tries to follow the instructions, gets into messes, and gives up in frustration. I suppose it's an effort not to "talk down" to the reader, but it's counterproductive.

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[info]momomom
2008-04-23 04:31 pm UTC (link)
I really enjoy your recipes and cook book recommendations. I just purchased the Cornbread Gospels and we have really like the Artisan Bread in less than 5 Minutes a Day one.

One correction for you here. You say "If the simmering process makes you need to add a little more water -- which can happen -- be sure you also add the right amount of additional beef bouillon cubes or granules". This would have the effect of concentrating the flavor and the salt, perhaps more that you wish it be concentrated. The loss of water while simmering is ONLY a water loss, the salt and other ingredients of the bouillon are concentrated in the remaining soup. To return the soup to its original taste just add water back.


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[info]jehannamama
2008-04-23 05:28 pm UTC (link)
Oh, I grew up eating "Bone Soup," which is similar, where one renders down some bones into broth, before removing the bones and adding whatever veggies are around, like carrots and a can of tomatoes. So tasty with the cabbage added after the other veggies are done.

She never used bouillion cubes, although my mother did sometimes. I did until I found out how much salt is in them, and so now I either make my own stock or buy organic broth.

Now I cook my own "poor soup," which is a version of tortilla soup, with a small amount of chicken and lots of chicken stock with the fat removed. I add rice, corn, lots of spices like cumin, chilis, red or green peppers, fifteen or so crushed garlic cloves, onions, celery, corn, zucchini, tomatoes and some tomato sauce, a couple of bunches of chopped cilantro towards the end, and serve that with a few crushed tortilla chips and perhaps a tiny sprinkle of cheddar or jack cheese.

Edited at 2008-04-23 05:31 pm UTC

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[info]indefatigable42
2008-04-23 06:39 pm UTC (link)
My poor soup is veggie stock with whatever veggie scraps I've been sticking in the freezer for soup, barley and brown lentils, mushrooms, and a bay leaf.

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[info]archangelbeth
2008-04-23 05:49 pm UTC (link)
Veggie cubes instead of beef ones, for the non-meat-eaters, I assume? O:>
*files this away in her Memories*

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Expedient Soup
[info]idiotgrrl
2008-04-23 11:25 pm UTC (link)
My own Expedient Soup - just started a batch and I had a nasty shoulder ache when I started, so you know it's easy:

Get your big soup pot. Do what Suzette said with the bouillon cubes and water. Check the freezer part of the fridge for frozen veggies, especially sandwich bags full of the remnants of the big bag you bought because big bags are cheap. Dump in a sandwich bag full of whatever you like. I use carrots, corn, peas, and green beans.

Add whatever dried herbs and spices you have on hand and like. I used black pepper, red flaky pepper of the sort you get in the pizza place, the last of the garlic powder, and the last of the minced onion.

Cover and simmer.

Now if you have leftover potatoes, rice without trimmings, or veggies without sauce, dump them in. Also a can each of mushrooms and chopped green chile, diced tomatoes (big can) and beans of your choice. I use red hot chile pinto beans. Cover and simmer as long as you like. Add tomato of vegetable juice if you like. My mom used to also add gravy but that's overkill to me.

Refrigerate; reheat at will. Set some aside to freeze; thaw & reheat at will.

Serve with corn bread, corn muffins (the 3/$1 mix) or if I'm up to it, corn pone. Or whatever bread is on hand. Also a little sharp cheddar cheese will spice it up nicely.

Thickens as the days go by.

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Re: Expedient Soup
[info]idiotgrrl
2008-04-23 11:25 pm UTC (link)
Oops! A sandwich bag EACH of eachkind of vegetable. One of carrots, one of corn, etc.

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[info]mmegaera
2008-04-25 01:48 am UTC (link)
[info]idiotgrrl's soup is very similar to what I call carcass soup (I know, it sounds gross, but that's what it is).

I save chicken carcasses from when I roast chicken, and make stock out of them (usually by dumping one in the crockpot with a cup of water, a chopped celery stalk and a handful of chopped onion, and leaving it on low all day -- but I have an old crockpot, not one made since the regulation that insists the minimum temperature is too high to make it a good crockpot).

To make soup out of the stock, I throw in whatever leftover veggies are in the freezer, and if I have a little chicken meat leftover, that, too. But I don't like potatoes in soup. I wish I did. And I'm one of those people who don't Do cabbage -- it tastes too sharp. So I use lots of frozen corn, and beans, and so forth. And some garlic. And more onions (the veggies that were in the stock get strained out, because they've pretty much done all they can by the time the stock is done).

Fake crab ($1.00 a pound at my local market) makes a really good chowder, too...

I suspect if I was starving enough, I'd just figure out a different way to do the potatoes. Don't know what I'd do with the cabbage...

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[info]mmegaera
2008-04-25 01:51 am UTC (link)
Bad form to reply to oneself, but --

If I buy a whole chicken, roast it, eat the dark meat over the course of several meals, make the white meat into one of any number of casseroles that makes 6-7 servings out of that white meat, then cook the carcass into half a dozen servings of soup, I can get fifteen single-serving dinner meals out of a $3.00 (on sale) chicken. If I'm frugal with the other ingredients, add maybe $3.00 more for them in total. Not a bad return for meals with meat in them (my apologies to the vegetarians).

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[info]laffingkat
2008-05-03 11:40 pm UTC (link)
Sounds like an easy, healthy, and very flexible recipe. I look forward to trying it out. Thank you for posting it.

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Response to laffingkat...
[info]ozarque
2008-05-04 12:31 pm UTC (link)
You're welcome. And thank you for the comment.

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